Revealing Email About Wild Horses From Executive Director of American Wild Horse Campaign

Wild horse by William E. Simpson

by Capt. William E. Simpson II


Dear Readers:
Over the past 5-years, my wife (Laura) and I have been living in a mountain wilderness among free-roaming wild horses studying and filming them. In that time we have observed and documented a significant amount of important and new information on the behavioral ecology of American native species wild horses, including their evolutionary symbiotic mutualisms within a forested landscape, particularly as it applies to maintaining grass and brush fuels on the landscape, which can devolve catastrophic wildfire back to the normal wildfire we expect on the landscape. There are very few, if any, advocates that have that kind of holistic overview and experience, for which there is no substitute.

Unlike many of the administrators running the donation-supported wild horse and burro non-profit advocacy groups, including American Wild Horse Campaign, I bring a multidiscipline background to aid in the longstanding plight of American wild horses. Among many professional vocations and a holistic overview of natural history and science, I have academic training and experience as a scientist and inventor combined with empirical experience ranching and managing forests (including logging and fire ecology) in the rural and wilderness areas of northern California and Oregon.

There are now numerous supporters of the Plan known affectionately as ‘Wild Horse Fire Brigade’. This Plan seeks to redisposition wild horses away from being in conflict with livestock enterprises and languishing in government holding pens and deploy them into wildfire fuel abatement roles in remote wilderness forest areas that will never be suited to livestock due to the presence of numerous apex predators and very difficult access. This ‘difficult access’ is what makes fire suppression in such areas so very expensive, typically requiring aerial suppression costing about $1-million/hour in many cases. And moreover, when firefighters are deployed into these areas, they are at higher risk than in other areas, many times resulting in injuries and loss of life.

For these and many other reasons, numerous politicians, officials, firefighters, radio and TV talks show hosts, ranchers, foresters and wild horse and burro advocates have joined in supporting Wild Horse Fire Brigade. Carla Bowers, a wild horse advocate for nine years is part of that massive support base, and had recently reached out to the executive director of the American Wild Horse Campaign thinking they would also join the effort. However, as we read in Suzanne Roy’s email reply, instead of seeing this Plan as the saving grace for wild horses that it is, and a way to end much of the fighting between them and numerous agencies and ranchers, Ms. Roy preferred to put up barriers to the Plan.

Within Ms. Roy’s email below, I offer my perspectives on the criticism she posited to Carla Bowers, who sent me her email for my comment. Please see the italicized [bracketed] observations and opinion I have inserted within the body of Ms. Roy’s email to Ms. Bowers (note; Ms. Bowers’ initial email to Ms. Roy is at the bottom of this article).

From: Suzanne Roy <>
Date: January 3, 2019 1:25:24 PM PST
To: Carla Bowers
Cc: Mary Koncel <>

Subject: Re: New development from AG Becerra's Special Assistant Attorney General Ellie Blume - when can we talk by phone?

Carla, this proposal [Wild Horse Fire Brigade] is fraught with legal, scientific and environmental obstacles and has no support from the California environmental community. Without such support, legislation would be DOA. 

William Simpson: [First, let me say that all of the statements provided by Ms. Roy to Ms. Bowers were unsupported conjectures. Furthermore, for someone whose organization is usually embroiled in a lawsuit in some manner or another at any given time and brags about litigation, claiming that a possible “legal” obstacle is a show stopper is disingenuous.

Secondly, if Ms. Roy had even bothered to study the published scientific research that has been provided, which abundantly supports the efficacy of the concept that is central to the Wild Horse Fire Brigade Plan, she might have avoided wrongly claiming exactly the opposite. And as a matter of extra belts and suspenders, here are just two of the numerous cited published studies that support the Plan:

According to a study published by the American Association for the Advancement of Science:

"By altering the quantity and distribution of fuel supplies, large herbivores can shape the frequency, intensity, and spatial distribution of fires across a landscape."

Another published study states:        

"The removal of large herbivores has adverse effects on landscape structure and ecosystem functioning. In wetter ecosystems, the loss of large herbivores is associated with an increased abundance of woody plants and the development of a closed-canopy vegetation. In drier ecosystems, reductions of large grazers can lead to a high grass biomass, and thus, to an increase in the frequency and intensity of wildfires. Together, with the loss of a prey base for large carnivores, these changes in vegetation structures and fire regimes may trigger cascades of extinctions (Bakker et al., 2016; Estes et al., 2011; Hopcraft, Olff, & Sinclair, 2009; Malhi et al., 2016)."

And this new study titled; ‘Experimental rewilding enhances grassland functional composition and pollinator habitat use’, and published in the British Ecological Society, points to the benefits of re-wilding wild horses onto the landscape.

Thirdly, as to her allegations that there is no environmental support for the Plan, I am a bit shocked to hear a supposed wild horse advocate make such a statement given the irrefutable science, natural history and paleontological evidence that proves wild horses are native to North America and have evolved as symbionts in most North American ecosystems where their fossil remains are also present. Added to which, the Wild Horse Fire Brigade Plan has just recently over the past year been brought to the attention of environmental scientists, who are seeking to keep hydrocarbon compounds sequestered to help mitigate climate change, which is aided by the reduction of catastrophic wildfire. What Ms. Roy seems to fail to understand is that in 2017, just the wildfires in Oregon put 3.3-million tons of carbon monoxide (‘CO’) gas (along with other greenhouse gases) into our atmosphere. And the 3.3-million tons of CO gas produced was more than all the on-road tailpipe exhaust in the same year!

And, what true environmentalist, in their right mind, would rather see our Western forests, landscapes, infrastructure, other wildlife, domestic animals and people burn to dirt when Wild Horse Fire Brigade could help to partially mitigate some of these catastrophic occurrences while saving taxpayers hundreds of $-millions annually?]


Miss Roy: Additionally, there is no way that we'd support the concept of a county using police power to put wild horses on federal lands. This would set a precedent that is much more likely to be used to expand cattle and sheep grazing on federal lands under the guise of "fire abatement," which is what most of these rural counties want but is not a scientifically sound approach to fire risk reduction. The last thing we want is more livestock grazing on federal lands.

William Simpson: [So in the above statement by Ms. Roy, she demonstrates a lack of knowledge of the rights of counties under the law, and the fact that the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals has opined contrary to Ms. Roy’s position in a recent ruling to wit:


“There is no dispute that a local government can ordinarily exercise its police powers to mitigate fire danger within its territorial boundaries. But a federal regulation promulgated by the Department of Agriculture requires permission of the Forest Service before anyone can “[c]ut[] or otherwise damag[e] any timber, tree, or other forest product” in a national forest. 36 C.F.R. § 261.6 (a) [(2016)].”

Moreover, in order to have any chance to control the prodigious annual grass and brush that is fueling the devastation from catastrophic wildfire in our Western forests, Wildland Urban Interfaces (WUI) and towns, it will without doubt require a full-on mixed herbivory across all vulnerable landscapes. Cattle and sheep as well as goats, burros and llamas will need to be used in areas suited for their presence, including on both federal and private lands. The key to Wild Horse Fire Brigade is that America’s native wild horses will only be deployed in remote, rugged forest wilderness areas in the West where livestock grazing would not be economically or physically feasible.]

Miss Roy: Finally, using the transfer authority to strip wild horses of federal protection and put them under the ownership of rural counties is potentially dangerous.

William Simpson: [Here we find that Ms. Roy failed to study and understand the protections which by law adhere to wild horses provided to counties, and which may very well be more effective given that the accountability of county government to citizens is likely superior to that of the federal government to citizens. So here is that Law, for Ms. Roy’s edification:

 The Law (H.R. 1625) is already in place allowing the transfer of wild horses to any Federal, State or County government, to wit:, Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2018, P.L. 115-141, Division G, Title I, Department of the Interior, Humane transfer of excess animals, Sec. 113: 

 “Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Secretary of the Interior may transfer excess wild horses or burros that have been removed from the public lands to other Federal, State, and local government agencies for use as work animals: Provided, That the Secretary may make any such transfer immediately upon request of such Federal, State, or local government agency: Provided further, That any excess animal transferred under this provision shall lose its status as a wild free-roaming horse or burro as defined in the Wild Free-Roaming Horses and Burros Act: Provided further, That any Federal, State or local agency receiving excess wild horses shall not destroy, sell, or otherwise transfer the horses or burros in a way that results in their destruction for processing into commercial products (bold emphasis added).”   

As we read, this legal protection is superior to wild horses being rounded up and sold for $1.00 per horse by the agencies charged with their supposed existing federal protection.]

Miss Roy: As you and I have discussed and you and Ellie have discussed, this is not a plan that AWHC supports. Not sure how to be more clear about it.


Suzanne Roy 
American Wild Horse Campaign

William Simpson [So in conclusion, as evident by the response from Ms. Roy, she sees the world from a narrow myopic view and is only interested in what ‘she’ feels is relevant, seemingly in conflict with law, science and common sense. Of course she carries on the financing of pursuing her own perspectives with money that is obtained via solicited donations from numerous third parties. Is this really helping America’s wild horses and burros? Therefore, I am offering this rebuttal in the interest of full disclosure in the consideration of these very important issues. This paradigm shift model Plan can potentially save the ca. 50K native American wild horses in holding and the thousands being rounded up off of the range currently from an imminent slaughter fate and can save millions to billions of dollars and forests, infrastructure and lives too. Isn’t that what we all want?

 In closing, I offer the summary of the Wild Horse Fire Brigade plan as a PDF: ]

Capt. William E. Simpson II - USMM Ret.
Naturalist – Rancher / Author ‘Wild Horse Fire Brigade’
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On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 10:33 AM Carla Bowers wrote:

Hi, Suzanne - Hope you've been able to enjoy the holidays with family & friends to some degree. I must admit it's hard for me to enjoy much of anything with the plight of our wild horses weighing heavy on my mind & heart.

Momentum & support is building for rewilding our remote forest wilderness areas with our "excess" (I hate that word!) wild horses via the Natural Wildfire Abatement and Forest Protection Plan aka Wild Horse Fire Brigade (WHFB), especially in OR where Bill Simpson has many more contacts, from their Governor Kate Brown, Senator Alan DeBoer, Jackson & Klamath County commissioners, fire & law enforcement officials, newspapers & radio programs covering the subject, etc. Bill is confident that the large-scale pilot studies he has proposed for the Kalmiopsis Wilderness & Cascade-Siskiyou National Monument in S. OR will be implemented in 2019.

I've been trying to get some traction here in CA & emailed key WHFB info to AG Becerra's office & requested a meeting with him. We were successful in getting a conference call with Special Assistant Attorney General Ellie Blume recently. She was extremely supportive & interested in the Plan & said that AG Becerra would write a letter to the CA legislature endorsing the Plan if we found a legislative champion to bring a Bill forward in support of implementing the Plan in CA to help prevent some of the catastrophic wildfire events that have been occurring & to concurrently save our at-risk-for-slaughter wild horses. She got that CA is severely depleted in megafauna (mainly deer & elk) which is causing the excessive 1-hour ground fuels growth to remain unabated which, in turn, is fueling our super hot megafires. She understood that Six Rivers Wilderness Area in NW CA would be an appropriate Pilot Study area for starters. 

Thanks to your work & since Todd Gloria is already willing to champion a Bill on the wild horses' behalf, I would like to reach out to him to discuss adding the rewilding of our wild horses to remote wilderness areas in CA for wildfire prevention to his Bill. I would like to work together with you & AWHC to this end. Can we talk further by phone about this?

I think we have to bring to the table an economic value of each wild horse deployed for fuel abatement for the state legislature and ultimately the appropriate counties in CA to buy into the Plan. If we don't talk money, I don't think we'll get anywhere with these people. The state/counties won't be making money per se, but they will be potentially saving millions of dollars on fire suppression costs by air in remote areas where the horses are deployed. Bill has determined that a wild horse's fuel abatement value equates to $72K over its lifetime compared to more traditional fuel abatement techniques (prescribed burns, which cause even more toxic smoke; weed-wacking; mechanical treatments; etc), plus using wild horses is totally natural & environmentally friendly.

We already have the legal vehicle to implement the Plan:  transferring wild horses as 'work' animals to the various counties that contain remote wilderness areas, even though those areas are under USFS or BLM jurisdiction. If the USFS or BLM don't cooperate, the counties have a plausible legal option to exercise their police powers over Federal lands to protect the health, safety and welfare of their citizens via the abatement of hazardous ground fuels (grass and brush; aka: 1-hour fuels). This is according to part of the recent 2016 opinion handed down by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit (Case No. 15-2210) where the court confirmed the police powers of counties over Federal lands to arguably abate dangerous wildfire fuels, but not to the point of damaging/harvesting timber or forest products on Federal lands. In other words, counties needn't wait for forestry (logging) policies to change to engage in meaningful wildfire prevention via ground fuel mitigation, to wit:

(Excerpt from page 7 of the Court's ruling: this PDF)

II Discussion:

"There is no dispute that a local government can ordinarily exercise its police powers to mitigate fire danger within its territorial boundaries. But a federal regulation promulgated by the Department of Agriculture requires permission of the Forest Service before anyone can “[c]ut[] or otherwise damag[e] any timber, tree, or other forest product” in a national forest. 36 C.F.R. § 261.6 (a) [(2016)]."

I would consider 2019 a Happy New Year if we can get many of our wild horses back to being wild & free with their families in the wilderness, where there is no livestock grazing & where there is still predation in a more natural ecosystem environment, where survival of the fittest & natural selection would be allowed to play out as the Creator intended. That would give my heart some bit of peace.

Look forward to talking with you soon about this. Can we set a phone date/time this coming week?

Thx much, Carla Bowers

William Simpson is the author of Dark Stallions – Legend of the Centaurians, proceeds from which go towards supporting wild and domestic horse rescue and sanctuary.

Capt. William E. Simpson II is a U.S. Merchant Marine Officer with decades of boating and expedition sailing experience, having logged more than 150,000 miles at sea. Simpson has successfully survived long-term ‘off the grid’ at sea and at remote uninhabited desert islands with his family for years at a time. He holds a U.S.C.G. 500-ton captain’s license for commercial-inspected passenger vessels and he is also a commercial airplane and helicopter pilot.

Simpson spent his formative years growing up on the family’s working ranch in the mountains of Southern Oregon, where horses were an integral part of the daily life. William left the family ranch to attend college, which turned out to be a stepping stone into a bizarre lifestyle that led him around the world on an entrepreneurial quest. An adventurer at heart, Simpson and his best friend and wife Laura, spent many years at sea during two sailing expeditions (1991-1994 and 2008-2011) where they experienced some of the many wonders and mysteries of nature. Since retiring, Bill and Laura have changed lifestyles and are once again engaged in a new adventure; living an off-grid lifestyle in the remote wilderness of the Siskiyou Mountains, where they enjoy coexisting with herds of wild horses, along with a myriad of other wild animals. The staggering beauty of the local mountains and valleys is awe inspiring and has influenced Bill to frequently write on subjects related to wild horses as well as wild and domestic horse advocacy, rescue and sanctuary.

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